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Profil ze zdalnego serwera może być niekompletny. Zobacz więcej na oryginalnej instancji.

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it's the result of the selection pressures inherent in the capitalist system because profitability is the sole fitness function that the company is evaluated on. Capitalism rewards psychopathic behaviour since people have to be willing to exploit others to become successful. Anybody who would try to run an ethical company would quickly find it impossible to compete with business owners who are willing to brutally exploit their workers.

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precisely

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Ah yes, the same tech that killed over a thousand animals in horrific ways just recently is going to be implanted in humans. What could possibly go wrong.

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Nobody complained when Huawei was banned with zero proof of wrongdoing.

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I really can't see myself using windows ever again, I haven't for over a decade now and there's nothing I miss. I also find that Open Office works well enough, GIMP and Krita are great alternatives to stuff like Photoshop.

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I've been lucky enough not to work at any place that relies on MS stack for a while.

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yeah, I think windows in the enterprise is gonna be around for a while yet

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The main issue is that the approach is too naive. Organic tissue has blood vessels that bring nutrients and oxygen to the cells while removing waste. This is what allows tissue to grow in three dimensions. When you just have a bunch of cells in a vat, then cells in the middle of the mass have no way to get nutrients or dispose of waste. The other big problem is the lack of an immune system, so any contaminant can quickly grow in this substrate.

A better approach could be to try growing a more complex organic system that includes muscle tissue and maybe even organs such as heart and kidneys. I imagine this is a solvable problem, but it might not be the best approach.

A different approach I saw was to modify plants to produce meat like tissue. People have been playing around with this approach as seen here. That seems a lot more promising to me because growing plants is a lot easier than trying to culture cells in a vat.

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I was thinking the other day how email programs are starting to integrate AI assistance for composing emails. I don't think it's a big leap to imagine that soon you'll have an assistant writing some emails for you entirely. Then we'll have AI bots talking to other AI bots without any human in the loop.

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I think GPT style AI is here to stay, and it's now getting so cheap to run that anybody with a reasonably beefy machine can run it locally. With stuff like LoRA you can also combine existing trained models, so you don't have to train these things from scratch either. Putting the toothpaste back in the tube isn't really feasible at this point in my opinion. It'll be interesting to see how human creativity develops along side this tech.

I personally disagree that this will kill human creative drive, I actually think this tech can allow a lot more people to express themselves. Lots of people have creative ideas but lack the skills to express them well. GPT allows anybody to easily bring their ideas to life and share them with others.

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I do agree that there needs to be moderation over content in general, I'd argue that it's not really an AI specific issue. Long before AI came to the scene there has been a problem with figuring out the quality of content and its validity. US famously uses the internet as a political weapon to push its propaganda and dominate the information sphere of other countries. AI is an amplifier and it lowers the barrier for content production.

You used to need a whole editorial stuff to pump out articles, and US has polished media companies whose sole goal is to churn out propaganda. This was difficult to compete with and to put out competing narratives. With tools like GPT it's now much easier for anyone to put out their message and to make it look polished.

In terms of creativity, I'm going to point out that a lot of similar arguments were made when photography was invented. Artists derided photographers because they said it was too easy to create pictures with a camera. Eventually art adapted, and photography has evolved as an art form of its own. I expect similar will happen with AI assisted art.

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I think there is a plateau to how far things can escalate in practice. The limitation is ultimately how much information humans can process throughout the day. It's also worth noting that we're already drowning in propaganda and junk information right now. I'm not sure that additional saturation of the information space will fundamentally change things.

And I agree with the unethical side of how models get trained, especially in the case of proprietary models. I would argue this is more of a capitalism problem than a technology problem though.

I imagine that in the end people are still going to specialize, and they will leverage these tools to automate a lot of tedious work in their professions. It's never been the case that new sorts of technology and automation led to stagnation. The opposite is generally the case where there is a huge explosion in creativity and invention.

I do think that societies like China will make much better use of this tech than the west will though because there is a central direction over how the tech is used and what it's directed towards.

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oh I don't have one, but yeah that's quite the horror story

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indeed

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I'm just glad I practically never have to print anything these days, all printers are terrible in my experience. I find laser printers are the least worst though since the toner tends to last forever.

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yeah I don't know a single person who cared about it

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Pretty sure it will evolve along those lines. AI isn't going to replace human workers entirely, but it will allow for drastically reducing the workforce in many domains. Companies will replace majority of the workers with AI services, and then leave a small skeleton crew that will be responsible for managing them. These people will manage business requirements, generate prompts, and then curate the content that the AIs produce.

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Right, you still need a human in the loop to make sure that whatever AI is producing is actually what's needed. However, you just don't need as many people at that point. Here's another example of companies reducing staff because AI can do most of the work.

There's also a problem with AI largely replacing entry level roles. Junior developers, writers, artists, and so on. Companies will keep their more experienced staff, but they will have little incentive to invest in junior workers and train them up.

Another factor currently is the global recession. There is a huge incentive for companies to lay people off because employees are the biggest cost for the business. We were already seeing layoffs happening in tech sector before AI services started popping up. This will only accelerate things.

Finally, it's worth noting that AI is improving rapidly. A couple of years ago, nobody would've believed you if you told them that AI could do the things ChatGPT is doing right now. In a few years, things will likely advanced far beyond what anybody can imagine today.

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I'd argue the whole issue isn't really with AI but with the pressures that capitalist economic system creates. Companies exist to create profit for their owners, and that means maximizing profit while minimizing costs. Employees are obviously one of the biggest costs for the business, so it makes sense for companies try to minimize their staff as much as possible.

Perhaps it's time to rethink the nature of work now that AI systems being able to automate large range of jobs. There is no reason why people should be forced to work for the sake of work. The nature of work should be such that it creates social value for society. Maybe we've now reached a point where everyone doesn't need to have jobs to live.

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